I recently purchased GamersGoMakers from Steam. It looked interesting so I thought I’d try it out. After playing a few years into the game here’s what I have to say:
(They’re pros and cons about the game)
Pros:
They have from the start competitors and it shows what games they make and how much they are making off of those games.
It shows you in a side message what new researches are available w/out a popup message.
It allows you to design the box for the game.
The game gives you much more detailed reviews and reviews what categories are strong and week. Ex: Gameplay: 5.5/10, Game Scripting: 7.5/10, etc.
Cons:
It is pretty much the same game as Game Dev Tycoon.
Even though it’s pretty low graphics it requires a pretty hefty computer.
I was never able to advance into the next level (Not sure when I get to), but I had 5 million cash and didn’t know when I was going into the next office.
All in all: I’ll stick to GameDevTycoon because they have mods, a much easier gameplay and setup, and there is a huge forum (aka this one) for help and other shtuff.
@Benshannaboy I think it’s different in many aspects, but I can agree with you on some of the cons. All in all, it’s a different game in some ascpects, but the GDT inspiration is evident.
I see some faults in your anylysis and would like to correct them. I’m only pointing out mistakes and not things I don’t agree with.
I don’t really see what you mean by that. I have a pretty low-end laptop (Intel HD Graphics 4000 and an Intel Core i3) and Game Dev Tycoon lags quite a lot later on, while I had no experience with lag any time in GamersGoMakers. I played to 2013 in my latest save. Doesn’t seem like that one is very legit.
You saying that the game is exactly Game Dev Tycoon does not mean that it actually is. You never get a thing that would say you advance to the next level like in Game Dev Tycoon, but as the tutorial explains you will get a feature where you can go to the Real Estate and find a new office there to buy. It’s different.
I’m just saying that in core GamersGoMakers is far easier to mod.
The premise of GamersGoMakers was a more advanced experience, which it delivered. It does seem like you were going into the game with a casual vibe expecting the game to be as easy as Game Dev Tycoon, which is not the case as pointed out pretty much everywhere. That’s your own mistake for not doing enough research or bothering to read the game’s description.
GamersGoMakers also has a forum where you can ask for help and will get answers and help. You just have to actually visit the developer’s site to find it… or just read. the. description of the game.
So really, there’s not much about this review that really makes much sense. It really is the fact that you did not do enough research neither I think you played the game very long. I’d just suggest you to do more research before buying the game and even making a review like this since people are not getting a fair review here.
A review is a personal thing and while it’s fine to correct obvious false information you have to accept that people have their own opinions and what you seem to see as ‘mistakes’, are in fact just differences in experience and in opinion.
He wasn’t comparing the reqs. between GDT and GGM so if he says that he thinks GGM requires a hefty computer, that’s an opinion and not a mistake. I tend to agree with him. GGM does seem to require quite a strong machine, given that the game doesn’t seem to have any character animations or other animations which would require such power. - In any case, maybe the first reaction should be to investigate if there is an issue, rather than accusing your customer of lying.
Far easier to mod? Really? Decode Base64 text, edit text file, re-encode base64 is not easier than using a mod editor. Even without the editor, we have a modding wiki, examples and our modding allows to introduce entirely new features, not just configure differences.
That’s an opinion, not a fact. A whole lot of reviewers seem to disagree too. You might say it’s a game with more options but having more knobs to turn doesn’t make a more advanced experience.
Last time I checked, Game Dev Tycoon isn’t known to be easy and I think you mistake ‘casual’ with just a certain degree of polish.
Btw. I’m not sure where you get the idea from that one can read that GGM isn’t as casual, by which I think you mean approachable and polished. I certainly can’t find any mention of this in the description.
You hide your forum behind a registration form; Don’t act surprised that people find our forum more accessible.
I think it’s staggering that you would react so aggressively to one of your customers. He raised a lot of valid points. Don’t shoot the messenger.
@LineLiar we are happy to have you part of our community but I think in this case you stepped out of line. Given that you are the official community moderator for GamersGoMakers (which you conveniently didn’t disclose to the OP), I’d appreciate it if you would respect our forum and not start attacks on our forum users under the excuse of pointing out mistakes.
You don’t see me going over to the GGM forums to point out mistakes either. It’s probably safer if you stick to non-GGM talk over here on our forum.
I don’t mean to advertise or talk about GamersGoMakers on this forum, but certainly feel the need to react to things which are mostly false information about the actual game. If I wouldn’t be allowed to post about GamersGoMakers here I understand, but then why let others start a discussion about it? I wasn’t trying to attack the guy and were only trying to point out his mistakes and false information.
I would still like to make one reply based on your reply to my reply to the discussion, though. So here I go.
I wholeheartedly agree with that, but it was obvious that there was some false information in his review. For example the whole ‘‘I was never able to go into the next level’’. It doesn’t work like that in GamersGoMakers and he should’ve known that if he played the game correctly.
I don’t see how GamersGoMakers requires a better computer. In Game Dev Tycoon I experience far more lag (late-game mostly) than I ever have in GamersGoMakers. I think it’s pretty much a fact that GamersGoMakers requires less power. I’m not the only one who has the problem in Game Dev Tycoon with the lag, as pointed out by many people on the forum. We never had anyone on our forum or Steam forum complaining about any lag, so I guess that would settle it.
Your game was out 1,5 year before GamersGoMakers, which mean you have done a better job at mod support yes. Our game is out for 16 days, which hasn’t given us the chance to implement big mod support yet. I don’t think saying your mod support is better because of UltimateLib too, because we simply do not have that community (yet) who does that. Your mod support came far later after the release too, so judging GamersGoMakers on that wouldn’t be fair.
I don’t actually see what you mean by that. I see a lot of reviewers stating that the game indeed has more options as you pointed out, that make it more advanced. Game Dev Tycoon is simply getting sliders in the right spot, getting a good combination and hype. That’s all Game Dev Tycoon has to get a good game, while in GamersGoMakers there go more factors into that. Don’t get me wrong, I love Game Dev Tycoon but GamersGoMakers is - I think - really more advanced or enhanced. What you would like to call it.
Game Dev Tycoon can be quite easy. You see much more people getting good scores in Game Dev Tycoon than in GamersGoMakers. It’s a lot harder actually getting good scores in GamersGoMakers. Unless you consider 50% good.
I don’t think I was very agressive to be honest. I just got the impression that the customer in this case did not give GamersGoMakers a fair chance, and therefore wanted to point out his mistakes. It does seem like he got into the game expecting to get exactly Game Dev Tycooon instead of a different game.
Your forum is indeed more accesible. That’s true. I think he was stating that we did not have a forum where he could ask for help though, which there most certainly is. He can either registrate on our forum or he could just go to the community hub, then the discussions tab and get the answer there.
I don’t try to start a flame war here though, so this will be my last reply regarding GamersGoMakers. I’ll be going now and participate in other threads on the Greenheart Games forum.